If Iowa can…

Go Illinois! No wonder the bigots and mouthbreathers are so bent out of shape lately…

9 Responses to “If Iowa can…”

  1. Vermont’s civil union law was the best toe-in-the-water approach. I think it made a big difference in the acceptance of the most recent gay marriage law. Just because Iowa managed to see the light, I don’t think we can expect a Midwest tidal wave of change. This like most social issues take time. If Illinois can pass this, it will be a great step forward. Good luck!

  2. Yeah, my own feeling about it is that gay and lesbian couples need to be pushing for civil unions first–especially since the backlash last time was so strong that they not only were denied the marriage thing, but in several states lost the existing benefits they already had (for example, GE offering same-sex partner benefits until certain states like Ohio made it illegal to do so). Pushing too hard will ultimately result in state officials coming for their adopted children next–and won’t that look good on the evening news?

    I know it’s not the same thing. But it’s something, and it’s more than they had before–really big, important things.

    Conservatives talk about the “culture wars” all the time–what they don’t mention is that they’ve been losing since the 1970s–family planning rights, higher education, school prayer, school curricula. It ain’t over yet, but the enemy (us) is closing in.


  3. Screw toes in the water. Jump in, the water is fine. If you replace the word ‘interracial’ for ‘gay’ in front of ‘marriage’, then see how it sounds when you talk about how ‘these people’ need to be patient and wait. Wait for what?Bigots to get over themselves. Screw them. The bigots can adjust. However, I’m glad that this is happening legislatively rather than via judicial fiat.
    Gotta run.

  4. I would agree. But, reality is jumping in will hurt the cause more than help it. It took some bold moves, but one move at a time for change to happen…. one woman sitting at the front of the bus, one student attending college… Everyone will eventually jump in… but for now, some brave people need to jump in first to show us the water is fine.

  5. I do see your point, but I am impatient for progress.

  6. We made a choice to have our “destination” wedding in a place that supports equality in marriage. We’ll be in Mayor Newsom’s city with our hetero selves this Fall!! http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=101452727

  7. AWESOME!!!! Congratulations!

  8. The Prof Says:

    I’m not necessarily advocating the “be patient and wait” approach–just the “push for the right things” approach. I know my gay friends have waited long enough, and I too am impatient for them.

    But pushing for nationwide marriage rights will cost them very, very dearly, as it did just a few years ago. The civil unions thing is a huge foot in the door, and once they have that–legal recognition of their unions as legitimate–the rest will eventually fall into place.


  9. I suppose it’s one of those things where I don’t see any possible harm from going ahead with it full steam. It’s not like there aren’t already horrible bigots doing horrible things now. I regard it as a human rights issue, and there’s no good reason to wait when someone is being denied their human rights.
    Besides, the way I read the Full Faith and Credit Clause of the Constitution, nationwide recognition of gay marriages should already be in affect. But then, I also see the phrase ‘well-regulated’ when I read the Second Amendment, so I clearly have some sort of mental defect.

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